Doug King + Luke Norsworthy = Spiral Dynamics Goodness

What is Spiral Dynamics?

How can grasping the ‘stages and pages’ different people are on help us in life, spirituality, and understanding the Bible?

Doug King appears on the Newsworthy with Norsworthy Podcast to discuss this with pastor Luke Norsworthy. Tune in here:

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  1. I think it would be interesting to explore the question of whether “stages” as a uniform, unchanging description of various phases of growth is an apt word.

    For example, virtually every developmental psychologist agrees that between the “sensorimotor” stage of infancy and the emergence of language, there is a dramatic change of “operating systems” – perhaps most fully illustrated by the full emergence of the “I”; self awareness.

    But if this is the case, is it really appropriate to refer to the “shift” from early to late adolescence – which some refer to as shifting from conventional to individual, or concrete operations to formal operations – as reflecting even remotely the same kind of shift from infancy to toddler-hood?

    it may be that what is happening in the second instance is not really a stage shift, but a progressive refinement of the capacities of the pre-frontal cortex (the mediator of self-awareness).

    To go much further, is the shift from ordinary consciousness to nondual consciousness the same as either of those other two shifts just mentioned?

    If not (and I don’t think it is, as it is not an evolutionary or developmental shift but a “shift” outside of time and space altogether) then ‘stages’ wouldn’t be appropriate for this either.

    Indian philosophy has terms, “Sattwa, rajas and tamas,” which provide a profound, psycho-cosmological understanding of the evolution of consciousness but avoid the limitations of the whole ‘stage’ concept.

    Given that almost the entire field of developmental psychology (outside of spiral dynamics and Wilber’s integral psychology) has abandoned stage thinking, it might be worthwhile to re-think this model.

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